BANGED AND OLUFSEND TO RIGHTS

Case Study One:    Gerald Kaufman MP fraudulently claimed £8,750 for a Bang and Olufsen television on his parliamentary expenses.

                                    He was not prosecuted but asked to repay the £8,750

Case Study Two:  A young woman with no previous is alleged to have looted a £750 Bang and Olufsen television (that’s £8,000 less than Kaufman) from a store in Manchester

                                   She was remanded in custody to crown court to get a sentence longer than 6 months

  PLEASE SPREAD THIS  FACT AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE. …..‘ONE LAW FOR THEM ANOTHER LAW FOR US’……as a certain band once sung.

Kaufman could be seen in parliament today demanding ROBUST action against rioters.  Robust…..robust..fucking ROBUST….FUCKING ROBUST…..IF I HEAR THAT AGAIN…………………….ROBUST    AAAARGGHH!

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  1. 27past1984

    gonna be pushing thjs tonite at work.

    thanx for the heads up .

  2. Anonymous

    Case study 3:

    3 month in jail for £3 theft

    From the Guardian 11/08/2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/aug/11/uk-riots-day-five-commons-debate-live

    A student has today been jailed for six months for looting a £3.50 case of water from Lidl in Brixton, which seems to support the analysis provided by the Guardian datablog that magistrates appear to be taking a hard line with those convicted of riot-related offences.

    Nicholas Robinson, 23, was walking back from his girlfriend’s house in Brixton in the early hours of Monday morning when he saw the store on Acre Lane being looted.

    Camberwell magistrates court heard the electrical engineering student took the opportunity to go in and help himself to a case of water because he was “thirsty”.

    But when the police came in, at around 2.40am, he discarded the bottles and attempted to flee the scene. He was caught and arrested by officers at the scene.

    PA reports that there were gasps from the public gallery as district judge Alan Baldwin handed down the maximum penalty he could to Robinson, who has no previous convictions, for his part in the “chaos”.

    The judge said: “The burglary of commercial premises in circumstances such as this, where substantial and serious public disorder is or has taken place is commonly known as looting.”

    Robinson, of Borough, south London, had pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a charge of burglary.

    He claimed it was an “opportunistic” crime, and he only went in when he saw the store unsecure and wanted a drink.

    Robinson will have to spend three months in prison before being released on licence.

    • Kelly

      Shows the panic of the state institution but it’s the people who pay. I feel really sorry for this poor lad and the others who are going to be scapegoated. We are living in very scary times that will bring in draconian laws crushing the practice and concept of civil liberties under the guise of ‘public safety’. Basically we’re fucked.

      • Kelly

        p.s. ok that was a bit negative. apologies. but what are we gonna do folks?

      • r

        realistic i’d say if one is of the working classes. But at least prison is an escape from impending homelessness for many and 3 meals a day. Its not like education is any way out now is it?! The uk is just a prison island , in my opinion, except no free board and lodgings. WElCOME TO ENGLAND! its great if your rich.

  3. jamfwaba

    Case study 3:

    3 month in jail for £3 theft

    From the Guardian 11/08/2011 @ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/aug/11/uk-riots-day-five-commons-debate-live

    A student has today been jailed for six months for looting a £3.50 case of water from Lidl in Brixton, which seems to support the analysis provided by the Guardian datablog that magistrates appear to be taking a hard line with those convicted of riot-related offences.

    Nicholas Robinson, 23, was walking back from his girlfriend’s house in Brixton in the early hours of Monday morning when he saw the store on Acre Lane being looted.

    Camberwell magistrates court heard the electrical engineering student took the opportunity to go in and help himself to a case of water because he was “thirsty”.

    But when the police came in, at around 2.40am, he discarded the bottles and attempted to flee the scene. He was caught and arrested by officers at the scene.

    PA reports that there were gasps from the public gallery as district judge Alan Baldwin handed down the maximum penalty he could to Robinson, who has no previous convictions, for his part in the “chaos”.

    The judge said: “The burglary of commercial premises in circumstances such as this, where substantial and serious public disorder is or has taken place is commonly known as looting.”

    Robinson, of Borough, south London, had pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a charge of burglary.

    He claimed it was an “opportunistic” crime, and he only went in when he saw the store unsecure and wanted a drink.

    Robinson will have to spend three months in prison before being released on licence.

  4. GSD owner

    Shameful, disgusting sentence for stealing water.A fine yes, he did wrong under the Law but the sentence bears NO relation to the offence. I could weep for this person.I’m afraid of what is to come for the people apprehended.I hope the Police are happy as there are many people far from happy, and they won’t forget in a hurry.Absolutely BRUTAL and inhumane sentencing.

    • Simon Baddeley

      Normal English approach to disorder for centuries. Hand down hard sentences on a few, then let most off. Educated will get treated toughest. Comparison with Kaufman is not comparable. Once a public figure has been publicly shamed in this way he’s dead in the water. Prison would almost be a relief. Tell me any examples of comebacks among public figures guilty of expenses theft or other corruption.

      • r

        I’m sorry but your comparison that public shaming – of which most would have forgot by now had this not been brought up in relation to sentencing- of Kaufman is reflective of a bigotted attitude held by those such as cameron. I’m sure Kaufman still has many opportunities especially since he recived no criminal conviction for fraud nor theft. he could still work in many spheres and could still pass a CRB despite having been engaged in criminal activity and therefore a criminal for life under the condem gov. However a young- YOUNG – woman with no previous gets charged and prosecuted and not just loses her liberty but opportunity to work in any field that requires a CRB and given the demand and lack of supply of jobs with a conviction to declare she will most likely be another statistic in the dole queue. Retraining is not exactly an option now either is it? unless you are someone with resources like Kaufman of course, who can afford such fee s and doesn’t have the badge of criminality he does deserve. You miss the point regarding the comparison since social status should not affect the sentence nor whether or not one is prosecuted. That is corruption.

  5. GSD owner

    Gerald Kaufman, you are a common thief, worse than the people in recent days who stole luxury appliances, at least they did it openly,and probably came from a background of poverty, unlike yourself.You stole from the public purse, furthermore, you were in a position of trust, and didn’t do it in the ‘heat of the moment’.You had time and resources to plan your theft so that it would not be discovered.Why aren’t YOU in the Dock now looking at 6 months in jail?

  6. INCUBUS

    When Parliament was recalled, those MPs on their long, luxury holidays, who flew back to the UK, will be claiming the cost of their airline tickets back from the taxpayer…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/11/mps-reimbursed-recall-parliament
    Meanwhile-
    Parliamentary expenses cheat Jim Devine was released from prison yesterday after four months, sources said.The ex-Labour MP, jailed in March, served only a quarter of his 16-month sentence.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/02/jailed-expenses-scandal-mp-jim-devine-released-after-four-months-115875-23313910/

    Scum.

  7. mark

    compared with the 6 months the middle classes will get for keeping slaves:-
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14496561

  8. ERYSICHTHON.

    Micheal Hill from Liverpool was run over and killed by the hunt in 1991. Alan Summersgill turned up at the cop shop the day after to admit his guilt then was released without charge the next day. He was with the hunt and well connected with police and magistrates etc but because he was with the hunt he got away with murder and 30 sabs done time for Section 1 in Walton nik.

  9. Climate Action

    Comrades: our insurection was not political; it was a battle in the war
    against the paraarasitic zombie army of politics!

    • climate action

      Who’s been commenting on tinternet after getting home from the pub again? On sobering up, of course it was political. We need prisoner solidarity noise demos. They’re in there for us. We’re out here for them.

  10. Jamesie Cotter Esq, Govan Straw Clutchers Collective

    Robust = Requiring or displaying physical strength.
    ‘Prosecute it robustly’ – Typical CPS instruction to an agent, prosecuting a fatally-flawed or very weak case, who tells them to drop it. When it collapses, they shoot the messenger.
    Authorities use the term whenever they want to seem to be tough. Trouble is they usually make sure someone else will do the robusting for them – and take the blame when it goes horribly wrong.

  11. Jamesie Cotter Esq, Govan Straw Clutchers Collective

    On the matter of poor parenting, and MP’s misdemeanours see this:

    http://nathanieltapley.com/2011/08/10/an-open-letter-to-david-camerons-parents/

    I condemn the corporate thieves – a £50M OFT fine for a supermarket cartel who fleeced us for £220M on a milk and cheese price-fixing scam, is an outrage which makes me foam at the mouth, 1922 Committee-style.
    Put all their directors in a stadium and let loose the water cannons of hell. Er….

  12. wow

    Yeah but when that ‘certain band’ (the ridiculous nazi 4 skins) sang one law for them they were singing against black people. contrasting white football hooligans with black rioters and how the blacks got off scot free while them and their white football thug mates didn’t:

    ‘Go to football, throw a brick,
    Get no mercy, months in nick
    Riot in the ghetto, red alert,
    Guilty free, innocent hurt’

    And about how Enoch was right about immigration and them and their white nazi friends weren’t allowed to say what they really wanted to say about immigrants:

    ‘We’ve been warned of rivers of blood
    See the trickle before the flood
    Pretend nothing happened, make no fuss
    One law for them, One for us’

    People actually liked this shit 30 years ago? And NOBODY fucking questioned it? Outrageous.
    Nasty little band with nasty racist songs.

    • Ashe

      ah yes the pedantic enoch powell – so far-sighted that he ended his squalid political career in the quagmire of northern ireland politics

  13. Robert Smitheringale

    Check out the person who has become the self appointed B.B.C. spokeswoman on your behalve. Dianne Abbott. 17,300 quid comes to mind for almost playing with Portillo´s knob every time on This Week. She did say sorry to Parlement though. About the money not Portillo´s knob. So thats alright then. What you lot did over the last 4 days was´t funny and I hope you are all ashamed of yourselves. Just make sure it does´t happen again.

  14. Keith

    Surely the State has the DNA-based technology to regenerate Judge Jeffreys (buried at St Mary Aldermanbury Churchyard,London – just to help them a bit) & relaunch the Bloody Assizes using his clones – It’s a logical step. Further advice can be taken from Assad, Mugabe & Thein Sein as to how to deal with large numbers of ordinary people. M’lud keep taking the caffeine pills & get them sent down; we need to protect decent hard working bankers, politicians & corporate bosses.

  15. Case study 4:
    Jason Ulett, 38, of Woodward Court, Ancoats, swore at and struggled with officers who suspected him of being a looter because he was wearing dark hooded clothing and riding a bicycle outside Sainsburys at Whitworth Street, which had been vandalised by a mob.

    Mr Ulett was jailed for 10 weeks and told that he should have cycled away from the violence instead of making trouble for officers facing ‘incredible odds’.

    Poor, poor bastard. They’re openly admitting that his only crime was to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  16. JonM

    No sentence for these “slaughtermen”: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-video-shows-pig-abuse-abattoir-234038162.html#mwpphu-container

    B*ggered in Britain. Negative? Just depressingly true.

  17. Mike

    It’s not about the amount that is stolen, it’s about the circumstance. While ‘normal’ people were looking at the riots and saying how awful it is that the streets are getting trashed, and planning how to get involved with the cleanup operation, this woman is thinking “check out my new telly!”.

    The expenses scandal was bad, but it was contextually different. It was non-violent, over a long period of time, and considered by a lot of MPs to be ‘the norm’. Once this all came to light, there were dismissals and there were reqeuests for payment and there were a few sentences. Locking up every MP regardless of circumstance would have been a bad idea.
    In the case of these riots though, the circumstance is the same, and if your morals allow you to go out in the middle of a riot and pick yourself up something from a trashed shop, then as far as I’m concerned you have no place in society.

    • INCUBUS

      Yeah, along with brutal, racist cops, and especially the one that passed details of Milly Dowler’s case on to the News of the World. Normal?. Bollocks.
      “Locking up every MP regardless of circumstance would have been a bad idea.”- Why’s that then?, white collar crime is ‘nicer’ is it, or is it cos there is one law for politicians and another for the rest of us?

      • Mike

        Because it would leave us with a massive gap in leadership, simply because you want to lock them all up regardless of circumstance. The way it was handled, each case was looked at individually, and a suitable sentence dished out. This is how this current situation is being handled, however unlike the MPs, these people haven’t throught “well i suppose this is an expense…”, they are walking into trashed shops taking what they want in the middle of a riot. It takes a certain type of person to do that.

        I hear a lot of this crap about racism since the shooting, but seriously look at the situation. Regardless of race I would hope police would shoot at armed suspects. This guy was carrying an illegal firearm. You can dress it up as racism as much as you want, but the fact is YOU are the one making that distinction. As far as I’m concerned, an armed suspect was shot. End of story. And as far as statistics go, the last 7 or so police shootings have all been white males.

        The Milly Dowler case is blown way out pof proportion by the media. Media companies hack phones all the time. They were not too long ago posting transcripts of MPs answerphones left right and center, and only a few years ago, the BBC itself was demonstracting the lack of phone security by hacking into phones at a train station.
        This case has just been blown out of proportion to make a decent read to keep people interested.

    • JonM

      If your morals allow you to justify killing civilians in Lybia, including firemen in a firetruck on the way to dealing with the results of NATO bombs, not to mention all the injustice and oppression that exists in Britain on so many levels, how can the PM possibly lecture the young people to whom he is meant to provide the example of leadership and still be credible? Theft is theft, murder is murder, and attempting to come up with excuses why these are acceptable on one level but not on another simply doesn’t wash.
      What are ‘normal’ people in Britain? Is it normal to accept to be monitored by thousands of CCTV cameras, to be pursued by TV cameras as you leave court (not possible in France, against the law), to display faces everywhere on screens in the street and encourage people to denounce fellow citizens? This is turning into something far more sinister and bigger than even George Orwell predicted, but the good citizens of GB are so used to the abuse and control that it no longer seems shocking. Viewed from outside the country, the blindness of the general public to the abusive treatment of the authorities (on many levels, not just the treatment of the working classes – the mistake lies in confining the problem to that issue) is truly alarming.

      • China Girl

        This reminds of the time in China after the Tienanmen Square massacre. There, just like in the UK at present, our TV screens and newspapers were filled with pictures of “criminals” whom we were being urged to report to the authorities. Your Government becomes more and more like the totalitarian, oppressive and brutal Chinese Government day by day.

    • pippa middleton

      if i see an insured tv sitting their in bang and olufsen and opportunistically take it, that is not morally much worse than claiming 8grand from taxpayers on shit for your second home

  18. ELVIS PRESLEY

    on the contrary i think locking up every mp regardless of circumstances would have been over half way to a good idea.a bit of robust retribution would do them the world of good,what they need is a good kick up the arse.what exactly do they suppose their job is? theyre public servants arent they ? wrecking other peoples lives for your own immoral ends is always wrong but that is the same for everyone…some are not more equal than others and nobody should be scapegoated or treated unjustly purely because they happen to lack wealth or influence.

  19. Anonymous

    “Locking up every MP regardless of circumstance would have been a bad idea.” LOL WUT?

  20. JonM

    Perhaps the broom wielders would all like to go to the House of Commons and offer a shoe shining service to all the MPs to make up for their fellow citizens’ rotten behaviour this week. While they’re at it they could polish the benches (the parts the MP’s bums don’t reach) and mop the floor and beg for forgiveness from their Lords and Masters….

  21. Mike

    I’m not sayng what the MPs did wasn’t wrong, I’m just saying it has to be looked at case by case. Claiming 8k in expenses whi you feel you are entitled to is different from walking into a wrecked shop in the middle of a riot to steal someting you know you are NOT entitled to. At the end of the day, if she didn’t want to get arrested she shouldn’t have gone out stealing. There are millions of us that didn’t and those that did should be well and truly locked up.

    I really don’t understand how you guys side with the rioters. They have caused FAR more financial damage due to the HUGE amount of cleanup and repair costs, and a massive increase in police expense to quell the riots, and you are banging on about 8k in expenses, which got paid back when it was deemed to be unauthorised. These rioters are just a bunch of thieves hiding behind the false argument of a rascist shooting. If it was all about the shooting, the rioting would have been against the police, not against the hundreds of small busineses that have now been left in despair. I hope they put all of the rioters away for a VERY long time so they know this ISN’T something that will be tolerated.

    • INCUBUS

      I hope that the revolting financial system that the cops protect, and people like you love, collapses around your ears, so that you are forced to endure the humiliations of poverty and to learn to fear the police, a fear that so easily becomes hatred…The cops were attacked and driven off, which allowed for mass proletarian shopping to take place…The thieving bankers have stolen and squandered billions, so why should’nt they be ‘put away for a very long time’?

      • Mike

        If you honestly can’t tell the difference between what you seem to be comparing then you clearly should not be discussign this in public.

        There’s a difference between the banks charging some fees and making some bad investments (which by the way, hindsight being 20-20 is easy to criticise now, but there were no complaints when these deals were going on publically before the market collapse, and the collapse was only contributed to by banks, they werent the root cause, but that’s a whole new discussion), and a bunch of thugs smashing in shop windows, stealing and setting fire to 150 year old buildings.

  22. DisenchantedBrit

    ‘I hope they put all of the rioters away for a VERY long time so they know this ISN’T something that will be tolerated.’
    I’m sure they’ll do their best. After all, it wouldn’t do to have them back out on the streets again, would it? Meanwhile, Cameron, who’s a lying murdering thief, needs to be thrown in the dock and locked up for life, along with the rest of the c***s in the government.
    The long proven remedy of beer, footy, and the telly doesn’t seem to be working anymore on prison island, does it?
    And, of course, the rest of the population will now disappear in their houses and hide… No wonder Britain’s in the state it’s in!

    • Mike

      Britain’s in the state it’s in, because every time anyone tries to do anything that steps on a single toe, dimwitted members of society start screaming. It’s about bloody time the government took some action.

      As for Cameron being a lying murderer, all politicians will be accused of lying, he’s not a murderer thats just ridiculous (I take it you are referring to NHS cuts?), and personally, I disagree with most of his decisions, but in this case I’m behind him 100%. You talk about hiding inside, I never need to hide from the police or the government, but I do have to hide from yob and thieves.

  23. Simon Baddeley asks us to name one public figure guilty of corruption who made a comeback. Well apart from John Profumo, who lied to the HoC about his affair with Christine Keeler, there is Keith Best, MP for Anglesey and Ynys Mon from 1979-87. He was found guilty of making multiple applications for BT shares when they were privatised but was freed on appeal. Previous to that he’d been a Tory councillor in Brighton.

    He went on to old and still does hold a number of liberal establishment jobs like being CEO of the Immigration Advisory Service

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