Archangel, basically what you are saying is that it is wrong to take from big businesses? So what if the rioters wanted something for free? Whilst everyone goes on about the recession and how it is affecting them (Me being one of them), what most people seem to be forgetting is that for most of the rioters, they have been living in the recession their entire lives! So fuck if they want to take something. There were peoplethere taking baby milk for their kids that they would not have otherwise been able to afford but I suppose because they can not quote Kropotkin or have a clear vision of ‘workers councils’ then their kids or themselves must settle for either nothing or less.
As a working-class person myself, I don’t need to be told what way I should liberate myself and as a class, we don’t need to be told the almighty shining correct path to a revolution. Only we can liberate ourselves! I am an anarchist not a fucking Leninist!
As for not attempting to destroy power, do you know the individual motivation of each rioter? I think wanting to get at an institution, especially one which is hassling you every day (The police), makes you want to destroy that institution. Yeah, maybe they did not have red eyes or have workers’ councils in their minds but they hated the system and wanted to have a go at it. how do you expect we get to the point of workers’ councils without seizing control of the streets?
Archangel, do you praise the efforts of the revolutionaries in Egypt during the ‘Arab Spring’? Now, many people who condem the rioters during August 2011 praise the Egyptian revolutionaries without realising that the battles on the streets of Egypt were accompanied with looting. But I suppose it comes down to the old liberal chestnut of supporting any non-pacifist struggle aslong as it is not on their own doorstep. You say we are not going to get workers’ councils this way and maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong but one way we certainly will not get it is by sitting around talking about it, waving our fucking hands in the air and hoping for a nice, passive, perfect, pure and clean passge to liberation (One that has been mapped out by some self-important, pretentious twat!) in which the police, army etc. just stand back and allow us to take control of the streets without confrontation! As for no alternative being offered, what should they have done? Elect an organising committee, have a planning meeting and draw up a manifesto and then go and riot? Please…in a spontaneous situation, such things most certainly do not come into play!
Also, no one said that everything will be OK after the riots, certainly not me anyway.
Who gave you the mandate to decide the meaning of insurrection?
Anyway, in reply to ‘lol’, drug dealers are scum, no doubt about that but as far as the “standing up to organise their hyper-violent drug dealing gangster mates” comment goes, A.) Are they drug dealers? and B.) If they are not drug dealers and they just happen to have mates that are, why blame those two lads and tar them with the same brush as their mates? Also, no one said that they were revolutionaries