Two of the policy ideas that were agreed yesterday. ‘Keep it Simple’ was the aim and DOUBLE THE DOLE and a MAXIMUM WAGE fit perfectly along with our MANSION TAX. As others go on the defensive Class war says DOUBLE THE DOLE. Other policies discussed were maximum working week of 30 hours – or the 4 hour day – with no pay reduction – paid for by wealth tax and AFFORDABLE HOUSING paid for by Mansion Tax and existing accommodation made available by exit from inner cities of fleeing gentrifiers unable to pay Mansion tax. City centres re-occupied by the working class.

Removal of beer tax in independently owned pubs
Maximum price limit on football tickets
Rural land reform – seizure of large estates from the landed gentry
Immediate amnesty on Payday loans

All policy ideas for discussion over next three months before adoption at Class War conference in May.



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47 responses to “‘DOUBLE THE DOLE’ and a ‘MAXIMUM WAGE’

  1. Paul Jennings

    Seizure of land from the rural gentry? A huge amount of land in this country is farmed by huge companies. It’s not bloody 1918, Ian. A great deal needs to be done to get the enormous amount of people who would like to live on the land on to the land and stop the countryside being a rich man’s club, but “Seize Land from the Gentry” hardly scratches the surface.
    You could try:
    Local affordable food
    Smallholdings & small farms for health and the environment
    No to Monsanto and GMOs forever
    No “super dairies”, no badger culls
    Reopen the branch lines for proper rural transport
    Land for food not speculation

    I could go on, but I’ll spare you.

    For Direct Democracy in every community and every workplace.

    • ianbone

      Well there’s the DRAX ESTATE in Dorset, the BEYNON ESTATE in Berkshire – all Tory grandees with estates robbed hundreds of years ago…plus the duke of Westminster’s few acres……….gotta start somewhere Paul

    • Herefordian

      Can’t speak for other counties but there’s still plenty of private estates round these parts. Often with beautiful mansions that are falling apart because the owners don’t have the income to maintain them but are too stubborn to sell because they’d lose their position of authority in the surrounding villages. It’s still 1918 in many rural areas.


  3. jcb76

    4 hour working day – shouldn’t that be a 20 hour working week? 30 hours working a week seems a bit steep!

    • wideawake

      15 hours is about right ie 3 x five hour working days. And the work would have to be useful (eg growing food, building houses/hospitals, providing care to those who need it. power generation, transport, passing on skills and knowledge,to name a few).

  4. Anonymous

    Yeah I saw yesterday that they had wasted 40 billion a year on wars that should never be engaged in and were totally pointless, as we know. That would cover the doubling of the dole twice over.



  5. Occupy Benefits Street?

    This might interest you Ian:

    Oxfam: 85 richest people as wealthy as half of the world’s population

    “The wealth of the 1% richest people in the world amounts to $110tn (£60.88tn), or 65 times as much as the poorest half of the world, added the development charity, which fears this concentration of economic resources is threatening political stability and driving up social tensions.”


  6. Dirty Squatter

    How about decriminalising the squatting of residential buildings, and while you’re at it, transit sites for travellers in every county…


    I suppose abolition of the monarchy is a given as a policy? …But what about having some policies for working class women? Free childcare for one, removal of VAT on sanitary towels and tampax, better still- they should be completely free on the NHS and how about the immediate imposition of equal pay for women…It’s time for the middle class dominance of feminist politics to end, and be shifted back in favour of the majority of women -working class women.

    • Anonymous

      Good comment. The majority of the poor are women who don’t give a flying shit about the price of football or beer. We don’t let middle class feminists dominate us or working class blokes tell us it doesn’t matter that lib dem women are being sexually assaulted by lib dem men (surely to god it was a man who made that comment on another post?!) Your previous posts have acknowledged women as carers. This class war initiative needs to be careful not to alienate working class women. I would add give parents a choice about working at all when kids are young. Going to a proxy job to pay most of your wages back for substandard/unsafe childcare is a curse for the working poor and our children

  8. Anonymous

    Ooh and those greedy landlords are taking all the housing benefit not the poor, so, rents should all be cut down to stop the the real greed.

  9. Paul Jennings

    Agreed, Ian, have to start somewhere. I just think something addressing wider popular land rights might be better than focusing solely on the gentry.

  10. Aidan

    Totally with you on the land reform, but let’s not stop at rural land. I believe a certain so-called “Duke of Westminster” claims possession of large and expensive chunks of London. Time for a bit of levelling there.

  11. I like the idea of doubling the dole, reducing the working week and keeping pay the same – but what about a universal basic income (UBI) instead? Would be much simpler, fairer and arguably have similar if not better effects: http://basicincome.org.uk/reasons-support-basic-income/ .

    On the downside, UBI is less catchy, perhaps harder to understand, and I suppose there is less of the overt Class War element to it!

    Re: reclaiming the land – it was all stolen from the people. Everyone learns about the Magna Carta, but few know about the Charter of the Forest, which offered some protection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_the_forest .

  12. b

    A third of the land in the country is owned by the aristocracy, according to a report commissioned by Country Life. The real figure is much higher, owing to non-registration and, even when ownership is registered, the non-registration of easements, covenants, and beneficial interests.

  13. rebel

    Winning Ideas ! Also can we have a auction on trident, save a ton on security for the junk, income from sale and a new ally, as well as showing the absurdity of the useless junk, I doubt the Vikings will take us over if we sell it.

  14. b

    “http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328270/A-Britain-STILL-belongs-aristocracy.html”>Here is a source for a third of the land being owned by the aristocracy.

    Can someone think of a way to sloganise imposing a swingeing tax on land development profits? Once upon a time, Labour wanted to tax these at 100%. The idea got squelched, as did the idea of doing away with the position of private schools. As did the idea of compulsorily registering all land titles. As did the idea of making all transfers of land be in writing.

    The official doctrine in this country remains that when there is a conflict between law and equity, equity prevails. In our language, when rich bastards want to hide their money and other asset ownership, they’ve got nothing to fear from the state. Only when they squabble among themselves do they call in the judges at Chancery.

    English (or should that be Bermudan?) trust law has spread to much of the world.

    Can someone encapsulate in a slogan the ‘policy’ of stopping the rich hiding their money and obscuring who owns what?

    That might not be so easy! I’m all in favour of social reforms which benefit the working class, but maybe a revolution is necessary to do the above, which would destroy the meaning, in a flash, of whatever instruments rich bastards use to ‘own’ stuff anyway 🙂 Not that that’s on the horizon…

    So is there a better slogan, given the circumstances we’re in, than nationalise the land?

    • Aidan

      So is there a better slogan, given the circumstances we’re in, than nationalise the land?
      Everything they’ve stolen we want back.

      • b

        @Aidan – you’re talking about revolution, which can’t come through the ballot box or a party’s programme. For this election thing we need good, serious, tide-turning reformist policies – capable of becoming popular demands.

        If we could get loads of people to think by 2015 “let’s get back everything they’ve stolen from us”, there’d be no need to stand in the election. Our enemies wouldn’t even be strong enough to hold an election. They’d be toast. The telly would be off – forever.

        A policy on land would be great.

    • Not sure if this is the kind of thing you’re after, nor do I understand most of it, but at the end of the post the writer proposes a land value tax: http://ckmurray.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/time-for-new-theory-of-firm.html

  15. Maximum price on football tickets? erm thought we were trying to get working class votes??…

  16. Anonymous

    Couldn’t we have just have full communism?

  17. ldev

    some great policies being proposed by CLASS WAR!
    consider something banning the food retailers/’supermarkets’ from incinerating/disposing of food they dont sell. plenty of people used to survive on ‘skip-diving’ until they then started to incinerate or have skips in private sealed areas.make the bastards give it to those who want it or have to pay tenfold the retail price of it as a tax

    • I agree that these are great ideas and will strike a cord with the electorate- placing monopolies including land under public management makes a lot of sense.
      My concern is that some of these policy suggestions are being offered in the full knowledge that no future government could sustain them under the present economic system – not so unlike the various trot grouplets with their transitional programs. Class War should include a statement within its manifesto that states that its object is to bring an end to a class based society. The wording in the SPGB’s Object and Declaration of Principles is a good place to start.

      • I agree munaizaki, for me the Class War is a war against the Class system and institutionalised poverty – financial, social and ethical

      • ldev

        their whole so called ”austerity” is lies! there is no deficit! its syphoning off of public money into private pockets. those who are ”owed” can take legal action-pursue what they are supposedly owed through the courts. WAKE UP!

  18. Ruahri

    All ex council housing stock in the hands of ‘landlords’ to be returned to public ownership. They should recieve the minimum for these properties as the public purse is going to suffer from making many of them decent places to live again. These bastards have milked it enough.

    • b

      They shouldn’t receive anything for the properties. Consider that to be a ‘tax’ on all the profits they’ve made from rents.

      On a related point, can we spread the knowledge that the reason why house prices are so high in Britain anyway (much higher than in any nearby country except Ireland) is because of the banks and the way they’ve got so many people to be in such great debt?

      • INCUBUS

        More than that, the government, banks and landowners are keeping the cost of housing artificially high by not building new housing, affordable or otherwise, speculating on the property- The other day I saw a statistic on the cash spent on Housing Benefits (straight into landlords pockets) compared to that spent on building new homes- the difference was astronomical- total public spending on ‘housing development’ amounts to some £6.5 billion, which compares to the total spent on Housing Benefit across the UK – £24 billion, and who pays a higher proportion of income tax/income, why the poor and working class of-course, nice to know the rich are siphoning it all off to their own class innit?

  19. And dont forget to lock up all the swine that have financed all war’s from both side’s for hundreds of years, and all who conspired with them, i dont need to name names we all know who “they” are!!!

  20. Damien Engine

    Relevant quote from that Guardian article: In the UK, some 67% agreed that “the rich have too much influence over where this country is headed” – 37% saying that they agreed “strongly” with the statement – against just 10% who disagreed, 2% of them strongly.

    Like what you’re doing CW! Keep up the good work.

  21. full tilt

    abolish all private sector taxes (ie eliminate profits) on food, housing and health care.

  22. Anonymous

    Tony blair to be put on trial. Regardless of political persuasion, the whole country wants this.

  23. b

    * free eyecare and glasses
    * free dental care


    * ban any medic or dentist who works privately from working in the NHS – ever
    * jail all medics and dentists who’ve ever tried to encourage an NHS patient to go private, including so that they can ‘refer them back to the NHS faster’ – that’s corruption; let’s call it what it is

    (Noises at back:
    Hey, maybe ask Polly Toynbee to stand?
    Shut up! And anyway, if she backs the programme, she’s welcome“)

  24. b

    @Inc “banks and landowners are keeping the cost of housing artificially high by not building new housing

    Agreed. The planning permission regime is part and parcel of why house prices are so high. A reform allowing anyone to build whatever they want on, say, an acre plot, would be good. It would crash the price of land.

    Not only the banks but also the insurance companies wouldn’t like it. (This is understatement: the reform would probably kill the banks stone dead!) If a house goes up from £150K to £300K because loads of buyers are in the market with bigger loan offers, insurance premiums double, even though the cost of fixing whatever problem might arise with the house might not have changed at all.

    But the details would need to be right to stop ‘developers’ (a term first used in that meaning around 1890) from exploiting it.

    In Cuba (possibly just in rural areas?) people are allowed to build whatever they want but not to sell it, so lots of people build houses on top of their parents’ houses.

    In Ireland, something like two-thirds of the houses now standing were built during the 10(?) years of the ‘Celtic tiger’ debt boom. Loads of old and often decent houses were knocked down. Sad that so many people were conned by the offer of ‘modernity’… Whole new estates now stand empty and rotting.


      ” allowing anyone to build whatever they want on, say, an acre plot, would be good”
      Agreed- Around 36,000 individuals, (0.6 per cent of the population), own 50 per cent of rural land in the UK, the rest belonging to the Church, MOD and agri-business, with a few scraps of land for the rest. The rest of us have to be ‘content’ with pokey flats and houses in the cities,whether private or social, and woe betide us if we are on benefits and have a spare room or the interrest rates go up…Only 7.5% of UK land is actually settled on, meaning that the rest is either used for farming or hunting or lies deliberately empty, which means a whopping 92.5% remains.
      It makes you wonder what all the piss and wind about urban Green Belts is really all about, perhaps keeping us ‘riff-raff’ literally in our place?

  25. Ruahri

    MP’s shall not have personal fortunes instead should have incomes reflective of the populace in general.

    No more out of touch bellends who dont know the price of a loaf running the country.

  26. Im not so convinced by a mansion tax, a land tax for unused land (or landscaped land that isn’t publicly accessible), and a tax on disused properties (commercial and non commercial) and on disused land.

  27. Class War takes over EU shock! From the Daily Mail: “Double your dole, Eurocrats tell UK: Ministers told current handouts are ‘manifestly inadequate'” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548377/Double-dole-Eurocrats-tell-UK-Ministers-told-current-handouts-manifestly-inadequate.html

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